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Long Range Shooting - Evening of 8/30/2010, 4:30 to dusk

Postby goettschvcghc » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:58 pm

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Long Range hunting/shooting interest is on the rise. Therefore, we are looking to exercise precision rifle (300-1000 yards) on a semi-regular basis. Thinking it would be necessary to do this in steps.

1.) A low key, long range evening at the club, by appointment/interest level a couple times a month. Currently, I want to hold a LR rifle self-training evening August 30th, 2010 from 4:30p till dusk. The VCGHC schedule list the following:
We will be working on the rifle range only, 100-300 yards. Longer distances upon check-out. Suggested equipment (nice to have, not required): wind meter, ballistic tables, turret/range estimate optics, spotting scope, properly zero’ed rifles recommended. By appointment only, Scot Goettsch, goettsch@att.net. Special fee may apply.
2.) Then, a Squad Designated Marksmen (SDM) match (every couple months, fall 2010) that runs distances from 50 – 500 yards, or so.
3.) Then the real deal “Field Match” which takes pokes over 1000 yards. The hope is to hold a match next year.

There has been mild interest so far, but I know there are more out there like me. Let me know. Also, the road to understanding LR shooting is not an easy one. If anyone would like a list of topics to investigate, let me know I can post what I’ve discovered along the journey.

Scot
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Re: Long Range Shooting - Evening of

Postby Mr.StephenChoquette » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:12 pm

I as well as a good friend of mine who will be joining the VGHC have wanted to enter into this world. What we wanted to know is there any chance of having a intoductory lesson or something like that ? Is there a way a member (if they were so inclined) could have a "long range for dummies" intro class. :-) I do not know if there would be alot of interest for this but I know 2 guys who would go. I would much rather attend a class from a fellow member than looking elswhere.

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Re: Long Range Shooting - Evening of

Postby The Koz » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:54 pm

This is one of my Favorites, Have Fun! :D
http://www.ShooterReady.com

Try out the demo.
It will teach you some basics of ranging with a mil-dot scope!
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Re: Long Range Shooting - Evening of

Postby goettschvcghc » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:00 pm

Members,

If there is interest, we will offer a basic NRA Rifle course with supplemental information on long range shooting. Timeframe will be late September or early October 2010. Course will be held over two days. Serious inquiries please, fees will be TBD, but should be under $90 for members, non-members little more.

Meanwhile, the below is a list of topics to do a little research on your own. I will assume we all have the basics down as far as safety, safety, and safety. This would be more of a two-hundred level and above course understanding many concepts that allow the shooter to manipulate the tools at hand to make LR hits on target.
The below topics are vast. Go as deep as you wish, some seem never-ending.

A few Long Range Shooting Topics
Basic ballistics-sorry is high school science all over again. Check out: http://www.rifleshootermag.com/shooting ... tics_0303/

Roll your own (Reload yourself or sucker your buddy into it)- one of the many ways to squeeze accuracy out of your rifle without breaking the bank. Check out: RCBS.com, buy one of the kits and reloading manual and be done with it. If you’re into spending cash you can’t beat a Dillon.
Ballistic Software - Learn to use it! Check out: http://www.jbmballistics.com/ballistics ... tors.shtml - you have to know what your chosen load does at distance. Then you will fine tune with actual field testing. http://www.frfrogspad.com/extbal.htm looks good too!

Trust the experts (but not everyone is an expert) - read as many viewpoints you can, then take the average. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Read Forums like:
http://www.longrangehunting.com/ - read every article, this is a great site!
http://www.snipershide.com/
http://snipercountry.com/
http://www.snipercentral.com/index.phtml
http://www.6mmbr.com/index.html



Basic Marksmanship Skills
http://www.usaac.army.mil/amu/ServiceRi ... rifle.html - download the .pdf’s
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... index.html - Ch. 3 Marksmanship is a great primer, forget the Sniper chapters, you’re not a sniper (yet).

Optics/Range Estimation – Not everyone shoots known distance. You can use cool laser rangefinders or use angle measuring redicals in your scope the most common is the Mil-Dot. the best Mil-dot/MOA discussion I’ve seen is
http://www.mil-dot.com/Content%20Images ... ations.pdf, but this is for people paid attention in class, simpleton’s see: http://www.dexadine.com/WhatMOA.htm. More on this later.
Optic Retailers - http://swfa.com/default.aspx - great place to buy glass, rings, mounts, etc. There is a piece of glass for every budget, but you have to do your research.

Data log book (logging all the rounds fired under what conditions)- build your own or I may offer a few kits if people like what I built.
Range time-yea, you actually have to go to the range and shoot!

I will update this post as needed…
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Long Range Shooting - Evening of 8/30/2010, 4:30 to dusk

Postby scubabob » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:23 pm

Do I need an appointment to be part of the gallery section? I'd just like to watch for now.
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Re: Long Range Shooting - Evening of 8/30/2010, 4:30 to dusk

Postby Mr.StephenChoquette » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:17 am

goettschvcghc -

Thanks so much for a great post and start. I as well as others I am sure are looking forward to this.

Stephen
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Re: Long Range Shooting - Evening of 8/30/2010, 4:30 to dusk

Postby scubabob » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:01 pm

One thing that Scott didn't say to bring if Off. Mosquitoes are plentiful.
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Long Range Shooting - Evening of 8/30/2010, 4:30 to dusk

Postby scubabob » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:55 pm

What a good deal. Very nice to hear the .308s splat against the steel target from so far away. Looking forward to the next one.
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Re: Long Range Shooting - Evening of 8/30/2010, 4:30 to dusk

Postby SBeery » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:11 pm

Hey Scot,

Last night was a blast :clap: Can't wait till we do it again. It's amazing how much you forget over the years :ROFL:

Keep Up the good work
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Re: Long Range Shooting - Evening of 8/30/2010, 4:30 to dusk

Postby mike407 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:08 pm

[quote]is is one of my Favorites, Have Fun!
http://www.ShooterReady.com

Try out the demo.
It will teach you some basics of ranging with a mil-dot scope!
Roger
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Where was /quote]

This is a great demo. Thanks for sharing! :thumbup:
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